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SB1007 goes to the house
by: thebaron
2007-05-16 11:25:23

Why do Illinois legislators ignore legal gun owners? We are not sure but a conversation we had with a downstate “conservative” representative may give an insight. We talked with this representative personally about issues from citizens’ gun rights to punitive taxation. Our interviewee seemed informed and sympathetic to our concerns. He further stated that he opposed legislation increasing taxes and restriction of gun rights. We have even gone shooting with this representative so we know he is not just giving us lip service. However, when pressed about what he would do beyond just voting “no” on these restrictions he said “What can I do?” We pointed out ARTICLE 1 of the Illinois constitution, SECTION 22. RIGHT TO ARMS Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Source: Illinois Constitution.)

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20-Year Old U of I Student Sexually Assaulted in Gun Free Zone
by: ShaunKranish
2010-03-12 15:17:54

On Friday, March 12, 2010, at about 3:02 am, University of Illinois
police and Urbana police responded to a report of a sexual assault in the
campus area. Upon arrival, officers spoke with the victim, a 20-year old
female.

The initial investigation showed the incident occurred in the 1200 block
of West Nevada Street, Urbana. According to the victim, she was walking
home and was in the area of Goodwin Avenue and Nevada Street. As she
paused prior to crossing the street, a male individual tapped her on the
shoulder. This male offender then forced her behind a nearby building
where she was sexually assaulted. The offender then fled.

The offender can be described as a muscular black male with a tattoo on
his left arm. The offender, who has a dark complexion, was last seen
wearing a dark sweatshirt and a necklace described as a wire-wrapped
cross.

The investigation into this matter is ongoing. The University of
Illinois Police Department is continuing to assist the Urbana Police with
this case.

Anyone with information about this incident should call the Urbana Police
Department at 217-384-2320. Information also can be shared anonymously
through Crimestoppers by calling 217-373-TIPS or online at:
http://www.champaigncountycrimestoppers.com/ Crimes in progress,
reporting of suspicious individuals or any event requiring a police
response should be reported to our regional dispatch center by calling 9-
1-1.

Crime prevention information can be found on the University of Illinois
Division of Public Safety website at
http://www.publicsafety.illinois.edu/universitypolice/campussafety.html

Updates to crime alerts can also be found at
http://www.publicsafety.illinois.edu


Barbara O'Connor, J.D.
Executive Director of Public Safety
Chief of Police
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

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Massachusetts highest court backs trigger-lock law on guns in homes
by: ChadSpark
2010-03-11 22:56:11

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In a case that drew attention from the Gun Owners Action League and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, the Supreme Judicial Court yesterday upheld a state law requiring trigger locks on guns kept in people’s homes.

 In what was seen by some as a victory for law enforcement and advocates of gun control, the state’s highest court ruled that the Second Amendment does not restrict the right of Massachusetts to impose its own rules on gun ownership.

“We conclude that the legal obligation safely to secure firearms in [state law] is not unconstitutional,’’ Justice Ralph Gants wrote for the unanimous court.

The gunlock case involved Richard Runyan, a Billerica man facing prosecution for keeping a rifle under his bed without a trigger lock. Police in 2007 discovered the firearm as they investigated complaints that Runyan’s then-18-year-old developmentally disabled son was shooting a BB gun at a neighbor’s house.

A Lowell District Court judge threw out the case. Middlesex District Attorney Gerard T. Leone Jr.’s office appealed in 2009.

Leone said in a telephone interview yesterday that the SJC had struck the proper balance between the right to self defense and the right of society to prevent tragedies — such as a child mishandling a loaded firearm.

“What they did for us as a state is they allowed us to continue to engage a balance between how we provide for our own self-defense and how we . . . avoid tragedy, especially when guns are in the hands of those who shouldn’t have them,’’ Leone said.

Runyan’s attorney, Brenden J. McMahon said he had hoped the SJC would have brought the prosecution to an end. Now the case will limp along, he said.

“It doesn’t really give closure to my guy,’’ McMahon said.

In a companion ruling yesterday, the SJC upheld the conviction of a New Bedford man who had argued that the Second Amendment right to bear arms trumped state law making it a crime for an unlicensed person to have a handgun.

Nathaniel DePina was arrested by gang officers after a .22-caliber revolver fell out of his clothing. Gants said the Second Amendment does not apply in DePina’s case because the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights has never meant that an individual is free to own firearms.

Gregg Miliote, spokesman for Bristol District Attorney C. Samuel Sutter, said the court was right to uphold DePina’s convictions and to leave state firearms laws intact.

The unanimous decisions by the SJC flow from a landmark ruling by the US Supreme Court in 2008, in District of Columbia v. Heller.

The Supreme Court said for the first time that the US Constitution’s Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to own a firearm for self-defense, but the court limited the reach of its ruling to “federal enclaves’’ like the District of Columbia.

Last week, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in a gun ownership case in Illinois in which, legal specialists say, the court is likely to determine whether the Second Amendment will now be explicitly extended to the states — and state laws and regulations set up to control the use, sale, and storage of firearms.

In yesterday’s SJC cases, Justice Gants wrote that an 1875 US Supreme Court ruling (called Cruikshank) remains in force and gives Massachusetts the authority to chart its own course when it comes to regulating firearms and ammunition.

“Under Cruikshank, the Second Amendment imposes no limitations on the ability of the Massachusetts Legislature to regulate the possession of firearms and ammunition,’’ Gants wrote. “These cases are the law of the land until the Supreme Court decides otherwise, and we are therefore bound by them.’’

In a statement on the trigger lock case, Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center, applauded the SJC. “Courts must continue to reject efforts by the gun lobby and gun criminals to strike down common-sense gun laws that save lives,’’ he said.

But Edward F. George Jr., attorney for the Gun Owners Action League, faulted the SJC, saying they left intact a confusing law and should have waited for the US Supreme Court to clarify the muddy legal waters later this summer.

“They jumped the gun,’’ he said of the SJC.

Attorney General Martha Coakley, whose office sided with Leone as did county prosecutors, said she approved of the SJC’s findings.

The court is protecting “the public, especially our children, from the risks of unsafe firearm storage practices while also recognizing a gun owner’s right to use a firearm for self-defense in his or her home,’’ she said.
 

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The fall of gun control: Terror, hurricanes spur gun ownership
by: NWOhioGunRIGHTS
2006-03-14 21:39:43

The fall of gun control: Terror, hurricanes spur gun ownership

By Tom Collins and Shelby Sebens
lasallereporter@newstrib.com

As printed in the N Central Illinois Tribune

No one was more outraged than Allan Vander Meersch when Illinois proposed charging gun owners $650 to carry a firearm owner’s ID card — a whopping increase from the current $5 fee.

The Spring Valley machinist, who draws a modest living selling firearms and ammunition at gun shows, was not surprised by the move, however.

Vander Meersch began hunting with his father at age 5 and joined the National Rifle Association in 1970. In the 30 years since, he’s been quick to phone legislators to support or oppose gun legislation. Mostly, it’s been in opposition.

“The atmosphere for gun ownership has changed 300 percent — 100 percent for every 10 years I’ve been involved,” Vander Meersch said. “It’s not changing in a direction that favors people who own firearms.”

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Another concealed carry measure gets early approval in Illinois
by: ChadSpark
2010-03-11 22:58:44

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SPRINGFIELD -- For the second time in a week, a House panel dominated by downstate lawmakers signaled its approval of a law allowing Illinoisans to carry concealed weapons.

The House Agriculture Committee voted 11-2 to endorse the proposed law, which is sponsored by state Rep. Brandon Phelps, D-Harrisburg.

Chicago-area lawmakers are likely to push back if the measure comes up for debate in the full House. The committee has approved similar measures at least five times in previous years, but the concept has not advanced in the full House.

Action on the legislation came a day before gun rights advocates are scheduled to descend on the Capitol for their annual lobby day. Illinois and Wisconsin are the only states that bar nearly all residents from carrying concealed weapons.

While the committee heard testimony on a similar concealed carry measure last week, the focus of the conversation was different Tuesday because of provisions in Phelps' proposal that are absent in the other measure, which is being pushed by John Bradley, D-Marion.

One of the proposals upset retailers and manufactures. It states that if a business prohibits people from carrying guns on their establishment, they are liable for injuries in armed robberies to gun owners who were disarmed.

"If they take my right to self defense.because of their company policy, we're going to make it explicit that they going to be civilly liable for that," said Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association. "There is going to be a price tag that comes along with that if I'm injured or killed."

Mark Denzler, vice president for the Illinois Manufacturers' Association, objected to the provision, stating it is bad for the business community.

"I think businesses have the right to set rules for their individual business, if they don't want a concealed carry gun on their premises," he said.

State Rep. Donald Moffitt, R-Gilson, is a strong proponent for concealed carry but agreed the liability provision was unfriendly to businesses.

"I think you're making a big mistake to potentially muddy the waters," he said.

Moffitt voted in favor of the measure, with the hopes that the provision would be taken out before it reaches the House floor.

State Rep. Julie Hamos, D- Evanston, voted against the proposal like she did last week. State Rep. Mary Flowers, D- Chicago, also voted against Phelp's bill.

The legislation is House Bill 5221.
 

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Defending you and your family
by: NWOhioGunRIGHTS
2008-12-22 23:19:20

Hey Guys and Gals! Yes, its Christmas time again! I want to wish you all a Merry Xmas. However, I am not here just to wish you all fine fine greetings. I want to talk with or write about a common misconception. That is more like a safety rule. During this season I need not remind you of our bad economy and how around the country, the rise in home invasions has risen because of this problem. I know that alot of you own a firearm of some type. Now I know that it does add security and the ability to protect your loved ones from harm.

However, I want to remind you that sometimes, not always if you add a weapon of any kind into the mix of an incident, especially a firearm. You are only (once in a while) brining the stakes to a new level. This makes me think of what I am constantly taught and reminded of all the time. That we train, train, train for all types of events and or incidents while practicing with our weapons.

I know that most of us practice target shooting because we enjoy taking part in a match or meet. Most of us don't practice for close quarter encounters, such as hallways or small enclosed areas. However, as you know if you are going to defend yourself and or your family you should be able to make all of your shots count. You should never miss your mark! You are responsible for any shot that does miss its intended target, both criminally and in a civil matter. (Click on read more to continue...)

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BBC Article on Open Carry in Wisconsin!!!
by: ShaunKranish
2010-03-11 17:27:32

Armed and ready to shop

Mark Mardell | 01:27 UK time, Thursday, 11 March 2010

Elm Grove, near Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Other customers stare as Nik Clark and Kim Garny do their weekly shop at a large upscale supermarket. It's hardy a surprise as a TV camera is trailing behind their trolley. But people would do a double-take even if the BBC weren't in tow. In some ways Nick wants them to look.

There's a revolver amid the ravioli, an automatic among the avocados.

Like cowboys out of Westerns, the couple carry handguns on holsters on their hips. She has a Smith and Wesson .38 special with a cute pink grip that makes it look almost like a toy. He has a rather more chunky Glock.

KIm Garny 's Smith and Wesson .38Wisconsin Open Carry. Groups like this have been springing up all over the States in the last year and they've been making an impact in the last week or so, getting Starbucks in California to agree people should be allowed into their coffee shops carrying guns. The groups are made up of people who want to make a point about the Second Amendment right in the Constitution to bear arms, by bearing them openly. Some want to make a point and test whether or not private firms like shops and restaurants recognise that right.

The movement is slightly different in the state of Wisconsin where concealed guns are banned. Nick says wearing a gun in a visible holster is the only way he can carry a weapon legally and he wants others to be aware of their rights: he doesn't want to confront but to convert.

"You have a right to self defence and open carry is a great deterrent. It's about personal protection," he says.

He's a beefy guy, with bulging muscles, so I ask: Isn't he rather intimidating when he's armed as well?

"I've been open carrying for about a year and most people don't notice, or some might make a comment. It's a demonstration I am a law-abiding citizen, you have nothing to hide. Criminals never open carry."

He says that his group respects property rights and if a shop doesn't want their custom and they are asked to leave they are happy to do so: they don't want to patronise that business. But he says most big companies know the law and have a policy that allows them to shop armed.

Kim says for her it is all about self protection: "I can guarantee if I am going to my car late at night and someone sees me carrying a gun they won't make me a victim."

Nik Clark and Kim Garny shopping

But Nick says he is also making a point: "I want people to see me and have a level of comfort, to know that if they are out walking their dog it is OK to carry a gun, if they are walking to their car after work it is legal to carry a firearm."

When Obama was elected many gun enthusiasts expected the tightening of laws. Many of those in favour of controls expected Obama to increase regulation. As a senator he had always been in favour of restrictions on guns. But it seems thing are rather going the other way.

Last year a ban on carrying concealed weapons in national parks was lifted. In Virginia politicians are likely to change the law and allow people to buy more than one hand gun a month.

The supreme court is pondering whether to declare the 28-year ban on handguns in Chicago unconstitutional. They will take months before coming to a decision but observers who've watched the case carefully believe they will rule against the ban, with huge implications all around the states.

In Wisconsin, Open Carry is taking legal action against the rule that bans handguns within a quarter of a mile of schools. The supreme court judgement could have a bearing on that.

Still, when I meet around 30 people from Wisconsin Open Carry over lunch at a big restaurant there is a feeling that their rights need protecting. There are grandparents and mums and little children, and all the adults are armed.

Most tell me that this is mainly about protection but what they refer to as civil rights comes a close second. A couple of people tell me it is the other way around: the politics comes first. One man, whose name I don't catch, says he doesn't feel very threatened in suburban Wisconsin but it is about resisting the encroachment of the last two administrations, it's about not giving in to big government.

Matt Slavic, sitting next to his little granddaughter, observes that outside the United Nations is a sculpture of a gun, its barrel twisted in a knot. "The Second Amendment gives teeth to the rest of the constitution, it keeps tyranny at bay. I do feel it is under threat, not just from within the USA but from the UN - their small arms treaty would restrict hand gun ownership in the United States."

Several people tell me the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, underpins the first, freedom of speech. One of those eating with a gun at their side, John Laimon, goes further: "It's not about guns, it's about civil rights. It's growing because of the plain fear about inadequate politicians. They cut down guns but they've got bodyguards. Our rights are under fire."

If you're in the UK, you can see more in my report on BBC News at Ten on Thursday evening.

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