Large bore destructive device legal??

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

I'm reading a lot in NFA and I have to look I to the Illinois UUW law and see but I'm reading from te gun trust lawyer that Large bore destructive device are legal like a cobray street sweeper 12 Ga or a US1A1 12 Ga if so that would be really sick but will keep you posted do you guys no if the UUw say anything of these matters

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

        (5) Sets a spring gun; or
        (6) Possesses any device or attachment of any kind

designed, used or intended for use in silencing the report of any firearm; or
        (7) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or

carries:
            (i) a machine gun, which shall be defined for the

purposes of this subsection as any weapon, which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manually reloading by a single function of the trigger, including the frame or receiver of any such weapon, or sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses, or carries any combination of parts designed or intended for use in converting any weapon into a machine gun, or any combination or parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person;
            (ii) any rifle having one or more barrels less

than 16 inches in length or a shotgun having one or more barrels less than 18 inches in length or any weapon made from a rifle or shotgun, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches; or
            (iii) any bomb, bomb‑shell, grenade, bottle or

other container containing an explosive substance of over one‑quarter ounce for like purposes, such as, but not limited to, black powder bombs and Molotov cocktails or artillery projectiles; or
        ( Cool

Carries or possesses any firearm, stun gun or

taser or other deadly weapon in any place which is licensed to sell intoxicating beverages, or at any public gathering held pursuant to a license issued by any governmental body or any public gathering at which an admission is charged, excluding a place where a showing, demonstration or lecture involving the exhibition of unloaded firearms is conducted.
This subsection (a)( Cool

does not apply to any auction

or raffle of a firearm held pursuant to a license or permit issued by a governmental body, nor does it apply to persons engaged in firearm safety training courses; or
        (9) Carries or possesses in a vehicle or on or about

his person any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or firearm or ballistic knife, when he is hooded, robed or masked in such manner as to conceal his identity; or
        (10) Carries or possesses on or about his person,

upon any public street, alley, or other public lands within the corporate limits of a city, village or incorporated town, except when an invitee thereon or therein, for the purpose of the display of such weapon or the lawful commerce in weapons, or except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (10) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions:
            (i) are broken down in a non‑functioning state; or
            (ii) are not immediately accessible; or
            (iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case,

firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card.
        A "stun gun or taser", as used in this paragraph (a)

means (i) any device which is powered by electrical charging units, such as, batteries, and which fires one or several barbs attached to a length of wire and which, upon hitting a human, can send out a current capable of disrupting the person's nervous system in such a manner as to render him incapable of normal functioning or (ii) any device which is powered by electrical charging units, such as batteries, and which, upon contact with a human or clothing worn by a human, can send out current capable of disrupting the person's nervous system in such a manner as to render him incapable of normal functioning; or
        (11) Sells, manufactures or purchases any explosive

bullet. For purposes of this paragraph (a) "explosive bullet" means the projectile portion of an ammunition cartridge which contains or carries an explosive charge which will explode upon contact with the flesh of a human or an animal. "Cartridge" means a tubular metal case having a projectile affixed at the front thereof and a cap or primer at the rear end thereof, with the propellant contained in such tube between the projectile and the cap; or
        (12) (Blank); or
        (13) Carries or possesses on or about his or her

person while in a building occupied by a unit of government, a billy club, other weapon of like character, or other instrument of like character intended for use as a weapon. For the purposes of this Section, "billy club" means a short stick or club commonly carried by police officers which is either telescopic or constructed of a solid piece of wood or other man‑made material.

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

So in my conclusion of reading this outrageous law that large bore destructive devices are not prohibited and the same with AOW, cause the law clearly states what's not legal so every thing else is presumably legal

Corporal Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Posts: 870

Street sweepers and USAS-12's are ABSOLUTELY ILLEGAL in the state of Illinois. They are also now a Class-3 firearm and HAD to be registered prior to some date (when I don't remember) or they are just plain illegal to own.
I know I had a USAS-12 and sold it quickly because of this.

If you search the street sweeper and the USAS-12 are SPECIFICALLY identified by name somewhere as class-3 firearms. I'm absolutely positive on this.

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

There was an amnesty period to register them to the NFA so if you where to buy one that is transferable then it is legal with the approval
And tax stamp from the ATF but Illinois UUw law doesn't say any thing about large bore Dd and they are classified as large bore dd but are not illegal to own them in but maybe in IL but I'm Doing more research on it I'm gonna talk to a class 3 ffl but if you show me a specific law that outlaws street sweeper or usas cause there not illegal in the us Aslong as it was transferred to the NFA registiry during the amnesty period

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

For private citizen possession is what I'm saying and the amnest is similar to the one for machine guns pre may 86 any machine guns after that are not legal to transferr to private citizen besides I'm really just trying to help the good old people from Illinois cause I know how the gun laws are there and I'm tring to get good info for you my research still continues

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

The Striker is difficult to procure in the United States of America as it has been labeled as a destructive device under the National Firearms Act with no sporting purpose by the U.S. Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).[1]

Corporal Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Posts: 870

Alac wrote:

There was an amnesty period to register them to the NFA so if you where to buy one that is transferable then it is legal with the approval
And tax stamp from the ATF but Illinois UUw law doesn't say any thing about large bore Dd and they are classified as large bore dd but are not illegal to own them in but maybe in IL but I'm Doing more research on it I'm gonna talk to a class 3 ffl but if you show me a specific law that outlaws street sweeper or usas cause there not illegal in the us Aslong as it was transferred to the NFA registiry during the amnesty period

Not illegal in the US, illegal in ILLINOIS.
IL law says you can't have a class-3 as specified by federal law, you can't have a class-3 firearm in IL thus illegal.

I checked and was told there's absolutely no way you can own this in IL. I'm not risking my collection, my right to own a firearm, or willing to spend a bunch a money to fight for a goofy shotgun with no purpose other then it's cool. If I wanted a sawed off shotgun, I just buy a defender.

But you have my best wishes for the fight.

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

Silencers are illegal
Machinguns are illegal
Shortbarreled rifles are illegal
Short barreled guns are illegal
AOW are legal for civilian owner ship
Explosives are illegal
Large bore destructive devices ?? But it doesn't say anything in the UUW law about it only explosive are mention and explosive ammo thus in my opinion not bad I
Still pending a legal answer
But yes you can own NFA firearms in Illinois and te only one I know for a fact is AOW's

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

But if you know they are illegal please direct me
To the source on which you got your info I want more info to read but I'm
Just providing information on the subject cause Illinois UUW doesn't bann them just the one I listed above illegal are mentioned

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

Just got my answer and I'm pretty disappointed but the dealer told they were prohibited damn that sux looks like I'll just stick to a siaga 12 ga AOW with a drum mag for my fun Illinois sux its a good thing I legally own an sbs and silencers and SBR here in NC just have to taken
To mo when I get there

Corporal Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Posts: 870

I would just rather spend my effort and money on getting concealed carry vs the right to own a machine gun or silencer, besides even more of the general public will just put you on the wack job list. I would say baby steps but it's a huge leap for IL.

Initiate Joined: Dec 15, 2010 Posts: 45

Yes I get what your saying but mist people are ill informed on the subjectand just think there illegal every where but I already live in a state with a ccw law but being a resident of Illinois aswell and it being my home I would like to see the good people from
Illinois carry LOADED firearms. But I would like my nFA items not just AOW to be legal and I denfinetly far from a wack job I like
Them firearms just cause there awesome and fun to shoot but I can carry around a rocket launcher and an m4 and fight the taliban but I can't even have my second amendment in my home state or shall I say a limited second amendment what freedoms did I fight for if we can even carry in Illinois