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6010rocks
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MikeMoore
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:03 pm |
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| 6010rocks wrote: |
http://www.botachtactical.com/pistolleash.html
has anybody seen a pistol made stock from the factory with a lanyard hole for a pistol leash?
good idea but i dont think ive ever seen a pistol made with a lanyard hole. |
When I was in Iraq all the US Military personnel carrying handguns had lanyards on their weapons. I believe they all carries Barettas (correct me if I'm wrong!) |
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TylerHooker
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:36 pm |
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I thought that the 4th generation of Glocks have such a hole. |
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caedenspa
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:28 am |
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I used to have a Beretta 92FS that had one. I think some of the 1911s might have one, but mine doesn't. |
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Dorkweed
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:35 pm |
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My 3rd generation G19 has a hole on the bottom of the grip for such a contraption. I understand the concept of having it; butI can also see it being a "snag all" and a real PITA. |
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themiller
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:26 pm |
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IBA sells (or sold) a 1911 w/that exact option. |
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TylerHooker
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:05 pm |
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| Dorkweed wrote: |
| My 3rd generation G19 has a hole on the bottom of the grip for such a contraption. I understand the concept of having it; butI can also see it being a "snag all" and a real PITA. |
Yeah, yeah. Mine does too. I just looked. I just didn't notice it before. |
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grEnAlEins
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:17 am |
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They are available as options on many factory pistols, and are available aftermarket for nearly every pistol. Unless you are going for a ride in a helicopter or anticipate the need for a quick and sloppy weapon transition I don't really see the point in having one, but then again you're hearing from the guy who affixes a knife to the end of his rifle  |
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SiliconSorcerer
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:31 pm |
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They are available as options on many factory pistols, and are available aftermarket for nearly every pistol. Unless you are going for a ride in a helicopter or anticipate the need for a quick and sloppy weapon transition I don't really see the point in having one, but then again you're hearing from the guy who affixes a knife to the end of his rifle  |
They don't put them on for looks... Handgun retention is critical in a risky situation. If your hit, kicked, knocked down, having you handgun still close at hand when you need it is vital. I've never seen a leash before but I have worn a strap when felt I needed it, especially in the dark. |
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TylerHooker
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:38 pm |
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I thought that it was to keep your pistol from running off and smelling other pistol's slide releases?
I still have to train my Glock 19 to loose leash shoot....  |
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6010rocks
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:50 pm |
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I thought that it was to keep your pistol from running off and smelling other pistol's slide releases?
I still have to train my Glock 19 to loose leash shoot....  |
don't you mean mag-well? |
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panzermk2
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:16 am |
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TylerHooker
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:46 am |
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Yeah, mag well fits the anatomy better.
Are pistol leashes really for retention? If a baddy was wrestling the firearm away from you wouldn't the leash have enough slack that they could turn it on you and still fire into you? I'm not really sure what the point is. |
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hkusp
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:42 pm |
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Leashes are absolutely for retention. Not from an aggressor, but from you dropping your weapon which will make you a victim real fast. When you carry, you should always carry an edged weapon on your weak side. Should someone grab for your gun, you use your strong hand to keep his hand on the holster, preventing him from drawing. Then you draw your weak side knife, and cut at his brachial artery. You can also use both hands to lock his arm in position on your holster, and than rotate Pro Wrestling style. This will tear many of the ligaments in his arm, taking that arm out of the fight. You then draw and decide if he's still enough threat to fire.
I've taken numerous tactical training courses for both pistol and carbine. Running around, ducking, moving fast, kneeing etc can put your weapon in crazy positions. And Murphy's law dictates if something bad can happen, it will. If you're going into a situation where you expect this, then lease your pistol. Most CCW guys likely won't need this, but it does add to the cool factor. And it can really complement your body armor!
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TylerHooker
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:56 pm |
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I do carry a knife on my weak side for the same reason. I am not sure what you mean about the wrestling twist, could you explain that some more?
How does the leash help if it is dropped? Here is my thinking. If you drop the pistol without the leash you easily bend down and pick it up. If you drop with the leash then you might get your arm wrapped up in the leash while picking it up. Then you have to get it untwisted (word?). I'm not sure how the leash helps? I guess you could grab the leash and pull up, without bending over, but that seems like it would take longer than just bending over, because it would stretch and you would have to keep picking it up more and more until you actually got the line taught.
I'm not trying to argue. I have never really seen how they are used, so I am confused. |
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